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Post by hexeta on Aug 3, 2019 16:01:27 GMT
I have had to admit defeat after over an hour of trying and still only getting the bottom half of an email as the end result!  This used to be so simple in Elements 5, File > New > Photomerge.....select the pics or screen shots, drag and drop and Robert is your Mother's brother! Please someone tell me how to achieve this in the simplest way in Elements 2019.  It is was one of the handiest tools when having to supply long documents where the Company name only appears at the top and the sender only appears at the bottom. You need one seamless document to prove beyond doubt who said what to whom and when!  Thanks! ...I hope I have by the way tried several of the online solutions where the wheels come off at some point or I end up with the "Panorama" of just the second screen shot! |
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Post by Major Major on Aug 3, 2019 16:09:40 GMT
Hexeta-
Don't despair.
1. Open a new document large enough to hold both parts of the email. 2. Open the top and bottom part images. 3. Drag them into the proper position using the move tool. 4. Crop as needed.
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 3, 2019 17:32:10 GMT
This used to be so simple in Elements 5, File > New > Photomerge.....select the pics or screen shots, drag and drop and Robert is your Mother's brother! hexeta, You can still do it in PSE 2019. Back in PSE 14, Adobe moved this feature to the Guided edit mode (Guided>Photomerge>Photomerge Compose). The tricky part is Step #2. Don’t select part of the image that you drag & drop onto the other; select the whole image. Then, use the Move tool to position/resize it. When you are done, you can save your project, or you can take it to the Expert mode for further editing. Photomerge Compose |
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Post by hexeta on Aug 3, 2019 20:24:08 GMT
Thanks guys: Have to say I achieved it eventually but can't say how!
since then, I have tried Sepiana's solution several times but without success, seems as if there is a step missing.
Major Major's solution does actually work, but it's a far cry from the simplicity of PSE 5.
There must be a better way of merging a document than this! 
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Post by Major Major on Aug 3, 2019 20:56:59 GMT
I must say I couldn't get Sepiana's method to work either.
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 3, 2019 21:41:57 GMT
Have to say I achieved it eventually but can't say how! since then, I have tried Sepiana's solution several times but without success, seems as if there is a step missing. Would you please detail what you did? This is what I get when I merge two files using Photomerge Compose in PSE 2019. I basically followed the instructions posted earlier. 1. Dragged & dropped one file onto the other. 2. Selected all the file using the Quick Selection tool option. 3. Used the Move tool to position/resize the file.    |
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 3, 2019 23:02:06 GMT
Step 4 Drag the picture containing the Upper portion of the merge on top of the existing picture on the main screen:
Notice that the "Move" tool is still greyed out and theonly picture visible is the last one dragged in to place! hexeta, thanks! This helps a lot. After you do Step 4, you need to choose a Selection tool and make a selection of the picture you had dragged onto the existing one. Just use the Quick Selection tool and make sure you have selected the whole picture. (You will see marching ants all around it.). Now, the Move tool will be activated and you can move/resize the picture as needed.  |
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Post by hexeta on Aug 4, 2019 0:10:17 GMT
Hi Sepiana,
Followed your advice , marching ants ,we have, ...but the "Move Tool" remains greyed out.
So to sum up, I'm now back to screen shot No. 4, the only difference is that I can now see Marching Ants!
EDIT:
Ahh! ...you didn't say toclick on the "Next" arrow!
NOW, I can move the top element of the merge into place!
Still much prefer PSE 5's version using "Panorama" it is the best by a country mile, simple, clear and precise,not to mention done in two minutes.
Both of these methods are really poor work around's to achieve a lesser outcome.
Thanks to you both, for getting me there! 
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Post by Bailey on Aug 4, 2019 6:48:04 GMT
Hi hexeta,
I am assuming your screenshots have some overlap on them.
I have never tried this, but in theory it might be another way to achieve what you are after.
1. Rotate each screenshot 90deg to the left.
2. Use Photo merge - > Panorama to stitch them together.
3. Rotate the stitched output 90deg to the right.
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Post by hexeta on Aug 4, 2019 15:57:46 GMT
Hi Bailey, Yes the screenshots overlap approx 50%.
I too thought I would try and make it simpler for PSE to achieve the task by rotating both 90°.
That also failed!
Seems PSE has taken a backward step for some reason with this version it used to be so easy.
Google is your friend, as they say and top recommended method is with "MS Paint"!
Just tried it and it's a bit better but neither is a patch on PSE 5.
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 4, 2019 16:58:04 GMT
Hi Sepiana,
Followed your advice , marching ants ,we have, ...but the "Move Tool" remains greyed out.
So to sum up, I'm now back to screen shot No. 4, the only difference is that I can now see Marching Ants!
EDIT:
Ahh! ...you didn't say toclick on the "Next" arrow!
NOW, I can move the top element of the merge into place!
Both of these methods are really poor work around's to achieve a lesser outcome.
Thanks to you both, for getting me there! hexeta, you are most welcome! Glad you got it to work. Sorry for my "Next" omission. For this kind of project, the usual technique is the one suggested by Major Major . It is simple, easy, and does the job. It is also my choice. 1. Open a new document large enough to hold both parts of the email. 2. Open the top and bottom part images. 3. Drag them into the proper position using the move tool. 4. Crop as needed. Yes, you can use Photomerge>Compose or Photomerge>Panorama but I find both techniques can add a certain amount of complexity (steps?) to the merging process. This becomes even more crucial when you use Photomerge>Panorama as Adobe designed this tool to stitch multiple photos together to create a panorama and it requires some beforehand preparation (such as overlapping) for the stitching to be successful. That's the beauty of Elements! It offers its users more than one way to accomplish something. You just have to use the technique you feel more comfortable with. |
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Post by Bailey on Aug 4, 2019 22:18:33 GMT
Hi Bailey, Yes the screenshots overlap approx 50%.
I too thought I would try and make it simpler for PSE to achieve the task by rotating both 90°.
That also failed!
Seems PSE has taken a backward step for some reason with this version it used to be so easy.
Google is your friend, as they say and top recommended method is with "MS Paint"!
Just tried it and it's a bit better but neither is a patch on PSE 5. I create a lot of panoramas using PSE and imho it works really well. Without seeing your screenshots I don't know why it failed with your screenshots. |
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 4, 2019 23:07:54 GMT
Seems PSE has taken a backward step for some reason with this version it used to be so easy.
hexeta, I am not sure this applies to the problems you are having with the Panorama feature in PSE 2019 but I thought it would be a good idea to bring this to your attention. In the previous version -- PSE 2018 -- the Adobe forums were flooded with reports about panorama blending/stitching not working as it should. Furthermore, problems were also reported in the 2018 versions of Photoshop CC and Lightroom Classic CC. Two possible culprits were suggested -- permission levels and/or a corrupted Preferences file. Similar reports have been made about the Panorama feature in PSE 2019. Some of the issues (bugs?) are also present in this version. I have learnt that Adobe is aware of these problems and is working on fixing them. Most probably they will be addressed in the next version -- PSE 2020. |
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Post by Bailey on Aug 4, 2019 23:30:09 GMT
Yes Sepiana, I agree that is unlikely to be the case in hexeta's situation.
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