pontiac1940
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Post by pontiac1940 on Oct 11, 2019 23:56:34 GMT
Inspeqtor,
Sony has had FP for several years...about 20132 I think. Gary Friedman, Minolta/Sony guru, says about FP, "How does the camera know when something is in focus? Whenever there’s great contrast among adjacent pixels. This means that if the contrast is mild the peaking function may not show you any colors – even if it’s in proper focus." This is why only the edges of the moon display the peaking pixels. That is why a star will show well with FP and focus magnification...love these features together.
"the mountains more inland would be several hundred miles in front of the outside edge, thus DOF comes into play." At that distance, and relatively small radius of the moon, all will be in focus or none. The moon is 384,000 km from earth and the radius (edge to center front distance) is a mere 1,700 km. So the DOF will be far greater than the radius of the moon.
The full moon is in just two days. I hope to get out with the new lens and try some moonlighted photos again...not the actual full moon, but scenery lighted by moonlight. Shall see. Fun stuff.
Clive
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 12, 2019 0:40:10 GMT
I am afraid we are getting a bit off track here. I believe the purpose of this thread was to ask for advice on editing techniques concerning the posted moon images, more specifically Unsharp Mark and Contrast (using PSE 15). The added topic (camera settings, techniques, etc.) is very helpful and informative but it is getting buried in this board. Therefore, I strongly recommend creating a new thread in the Photography and Techniques board. In this way, it will get the attention it deserves. Thanks in advance for your understanding and cooperation! |
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 14, 2019 21:41:08 GMT
Inspeqtor, my version of DxO has a slider for "Microcontrast" that will really bring out the detail in such situations; maybe someone here knows how to accomplish the same with Elements.
I recently used it on a not-so-great picture of a spider-web; and, by simply moving the slider, I turned a recycle-bin picture into a real keeper.
The 150-500 Sigma has been on my list of things I covet for quite some time; I think they make a 50-500 now.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2019 4:56:37 GMT
Inspeqtor, my version of DxO has a slider for "Microcontrast" that will really bring out the detail in such situations; maybe someone here knows how to accomplish the same with Elements. I recently used it on a not-so-great picture of a spider-web; and, by simply moving the slider, I turned a recycle-bin picture into a real keeper. The 150-500 Sigma has been on my list of things I covet for quite some time; I think they make a 50-500 now. BuckSkin Thank you for this info. That would be wonderful if someone here does know how to do that with Elements. |
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Post by fotofrank on Oct 15, 2019 5:27:44 GMT
Charles, Your camera has picture styles that allow you to adjust your Sharpness, Contrast and more right in your camera. Your Canon has a few User defined styles that you can change to see if that makes any difference in your images. Make small 1 increment changes. Setting everything to the right is a BAD idea.  Hope that helps. |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2019 5:52:37 GMT
Charles, Your camera has picture styles that allow you to adjust your Sharpness, Contrast and more right in your camera. Your Canon has a few User defined styles that you can change to see if that makes any difference in your images. Make small 1 increment changes. Setting everything to the right is a BAD idea. Hope that helps. Thank you fotofrank! I do appreciate this information. I was just able to find it, but mine does look slightly different from yours. What camera model do you own? Also how did you gen an image to show here on line? Did you take an image with another camera? Yes I agree to never set everything to the far right!! |
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 15, 2019 9:38:53 GMT
Inspeqtor, my version of DxO has a slider for "Microcontrast" that will really bring out the detail in such situations; maybe someone here knows how to accomplish the same with Elements. BuckSkin Thank you for this info. That would be wonderful if someone here does know how to do that with Elements. Charles, Elements offers more than one way to sharpen your photos. It is just a matter of playing around to see which technique will do the job. In addition to Unsharp Mask (which you already tried) and the High Pass filter (suggested earlier in this thread), you could try the suggestions in this Adobe document. helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/using/sharpening.html |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2019 13:16:50 GMT
Thank you once again Sepiana! You do have a wealth of knowledge when it comes to Photoshop Elements!  |
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Post by fotofrank on Oct 15, 2019 14:00:47 GMT
Charles,
I am sure that your display is completely different than my Nikon. I have for many years used a custom picture style where I adjust the sharpness, clarity and or contrast. My Nikon allows for 16 different ones.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2019 14:49:00 GMT
Frank,
I "assumed" you had a Canon since you showed a Canon screen shot. My bad for assuming what I did!!!
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 17, 2019 20:54:50 GMT
Another picture saver that I often use in "Edge Mask"
It is in the sharpening menu of my version of Elements Plus.
I always let it do it's thing and then, when the little dialogue pops up, I move the slider all the way to the right, 500 I think it is.
I had a bunch of scans of old faded 5x7s of the Grand Canyon that it really helped; it really brought the detail out in the rocky features.
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Post by Chris on Jan 29, 2020 21:03:37 GMT
Inspector, that's a great shot of the moon! Your sharpening does help. I would suggest some further things you can try to give the picture some more "bite". Of course, I am not suggesting that you use any or all of these other methods on your image. But its good to know how various other tools, when used sparingly, can enhance an image.
1. Experiment by increasing the midrange contrast. Enhance/Lighting/Shadows & Highlights/Midrange contrast
2. Also try making a new layer and when using the unsharp mask try using a very high radius like 125 or 250. This will have the effect of increasing local contrast. You can dial in the transparency of that layer to taste.
3. Experiment with a levels adjustment. By moving the black point slider on the left from 0 towards the right you can add a little clipping which might help.
4. Experiment with Enhance/Shake reduction. Although originally intended for motion blur, this can also sharpen images.
Kind regards
Chris
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Post by Inspeqtor on Jan 30, 2020 6:01:21 GMT
Thank you Chris for your tips! I will give them a try the next time I am able to get another moon shot. Waiting a bit for the weather to warm up a bit more.
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