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Post by hmca on Dec 29, 2021 3:24:33 GMT
I added this deer to the background. Think it needs a crop but when I crop it I think the grasses look too cut off. Advice? Feel free to download it.   |
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Post by pontiac1940 on Dec 29, 2021 3:42:57 GMT
IMHO the background trees/hills are important and should stay. This is a fast crop...  |
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Post by Tpgettys on Dec 29, 2021 6:12:25 GMT
To my eye there is something off in the scale; I think the deer looks too large compared to the rest of the scene. Also, adding a low opacity shadow in front of the deer might help with the realism.
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Post by BuckSkin on Dec 29, 2021 6:36:57 GMT
At first look, the top/original looks fine.
But then, after seeing pontiac's version and reading Tpgettys' suggestions, in the first version, the deer does look a bit big; however, pontiac's slight crop fixes that and the deer looks right.
A wee bit of deer shadow might be all it then needs to set it off.
Honestly, though, if you hadn't said that you put the deer in the picture, I wouldn't have suspected that you did.
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Post by cats4jan on Dec 29, 2021 10:35:22 GMT
I think the perspective works - it just looks as if you got really close to photograph the deer. The second crop improves the perspective. I’m not sure about the necessity for a shadow, but a skillfully applied one would probably enhance the photo. It needs something, though. Just don’t know what. (He probably needs a friend)
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Post by Lillias on Dec 29, 2021 11:45:29 GMT
I agree with Clive that the background hills/trees are important and should stay. To my uninitiated eye the size of the deer is just fine and like Buckskin I would not have known that you added the deer to this photo if you hadn't said so. It looks so natural there. I have taken the liberty of adding a very slight shadow under the deer but to be honest I don’t know that it really needs that. I also cloned out a dark spot on the shore edge of that middle bit of land. Anyway FWIW this is my take on it.  |
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Post by hmca on Dec 29, 2021 16:44:33 GMT
Thanks for the input.....still thinking on this. Looking at the original picture of the deer and the location, I don't think the scale is a problem. To help the deer not to look like it was pasted in place, I duplicated it and placed the duplicate below the original. I then added a slight gaussian blur. This is my own technique and I think it worked pretty well. It needs something, though. Just don’t know what. Agree....thought it was a crop.....but maybe a texture? |
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Post by cats4jan on Dec 29, 2021 18:43:53 GMT
This is my own technique and I think it worked pretty well. I think the deer looks flawlessly a part of the photo - with or without a shadow - which I can't say does much for me |
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Post by tonyw on Dec 29, 2021 19:04:24 GMT
Late to the party but how about a more radical crop and get rid of the snow (we had enough of it this week!)  Tony |
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Post by srmoment on Dec 30, 2021 18:25:01 GMT
Helen, I think the problem is with the hooves. The grass is still attached to them a little bit to the legs and that is what makes the deer look out of place in the sand. Usually there would be indents where the deer is standing in the sand.
Perhaps you can clone the grass out of the original deer and reinsert?
Lovely picture though!
Pat
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Post by hmca on Dec 30, 2021 21:11:06 GMT
Good eyes, Pat! Thank you.
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Post by kdcintx on Dec 30, 2021 22:46:18 GMT
There are other nice reflections in the scene. I think what's missing is the reflection of the deer in the water which would tie the deer to the foreground.
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Post by srmoment on Dec 31, 2021 1:09:09 GMT
I agree with kdcintx. Do you think we could we see your image when you are done Helen? It really is great.
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Post by Tpgettys on Dec 31, 2021 1:14:55 GMT
There are other nice reflections in the scene. I think what's missing is the reflection of the deer in the water which would tie the deer to the foreground.
Great observation kdcintx! Once you pointed it out it is impossible to not notice it. |
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Post by hmca on Dec 31, 2021 2:42:13 GMT
I had tried a reflection and didn't think it looked right. but after seeing Karen's suggestion and seeing Pat and Tom's comment, I tried it again. Not sure if it looks good or not. I don't think the reflection would be as dark as the grasses in the background.....but I really don't know. Here's my attempt.....what do you think? Just went back to look at the original deer. Think I may do this over.....the front legs look too thin.   |
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