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Post by pontiac1940 on Jul 9, 2023 4:19:59 GMT
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Post by hmca on Jul 9, 2023 20:57:00 GMT
Skimmed this earlier need to really read, Clive. I am turning to my phone more often these days.
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Post by Howard on Jul 10, 2023 6:57:26 GMT
Interesting, Clive.
I must be doing something wrong as I have a Google Pixel which rates quite highly for camera quality and yet the photos don't even come close to my Sony.
I don't dispute the article, however...the Sydney Head On photo festival (https://headon.org.au/) has a mobile phone section and the results are very good.
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Post by tonyw on Jul 10, 2023 21:51:17 GMT
Interesting comparison and a bit of a different conclusion than a recent one in Amateur Photographer although I have to agree that as long as you don't pixel peep it's hard to tell the difference and in my case I do use both depending on the situation - street photography for example is a lot less conspicuous with a phone! But I'm of an age that goes back to the days of film so I like cameras that have dials where you can manually adjust everything (although I usually have things set on Auto ISO, Auto Shutter Speed so only have to think about Aperture) and I do like a viewfinder where I can compose a shot without trying to see what's showing on a screen in bright sunlight. So here's my "real" camera taken with my "smart" camera!  Tony |
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Post by hmca on Jul 10, 2023 23:15:35 GMT
Thanks for the follow-up, Tony. I agree about using the phone for street photography....but for "serious" photography I tend to go with my camera. I would never think of using my phone for a gymnastics meet, fireworks, distant shots. However, I am looking to learn how to use my phone to its full potential. Seeing some of jackscrap 's phone pix was what gave me the nudge to upgrade my phone. I am now using the iphone 14 pro. I do like my phone for some flower still life images that I've taken. I find the phone so much easier to frame my shot with then trying to get it right with the camera (especially when using a tripod)....but that may just be me. Just for fun I am attaching two pictures that I just took; one with the phone and one with my wide angle lens. I have a feeling that people won't have a hard time distinguishing them.   However, I would love to see a thread dedicated to phone pix if people were interested. |
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Post by cats4jan on Jul 10, 2023 23:51:27 GMT
I think it all comes down to why you are taking photos. If it’s to memorialize an event and there is a lot going on, having your phone always available is easier.
If, however, the point is to enjoy a day out with the express point of the hobby of photography as a past time - you would want your real camera with you.
Another thing - if all you ever used was a p&s on auto - the smartphone is a great replacement.
It is important to me that my photos can be cropped and repaired- but what is now important is to make sure a camera is always available - which, of course, means the phone.
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Post by pontiac1940 on Jul 11, 2023 0:57:51 GMT
... for fun I am attaching two pictures that I just took; one with the phone and one with my wide angle lens. I have a feeling that people won't have a hard time distinguishing them. The bottom one is from your real camera. Right? The phone cam is decent for sure. |
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Post by hmca on Jul 11, 2023 1:14:15 GMT
Correct....after I posted I thought I probably should have edited the camera picture a bit as it was shot in RAW but posted almost directly from camera....just upped the exposure a little. I often thing the phone has a sort of "crunchy" look. Check out the leaves on the trees.
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Post by BuckSkin on Jul 12, 2023 1:18:25 GMT
The one thing I dislike most about the camera I carry on my belt at all times, a Canon S90, chosen because it was one of the few P&S cameras that captures in RAW, is the fact that it has no view-finder, forcing me to have to guess at most of my "composures" on account of all I can see is a black blur.
For what it is, it does an excellent job considering.
I also don't like that for most changes I have to mess with menus and learn how to use the durn thing every time.
The rifleman in me wants a view-finder.
The rifleman in me is also why I tend to try to "target" my shots with that little focus square in the center and it is hard to force my brain to click the shutter if everything isn't lined up perfectly and steady as a rock.
I could never get along with a phone; if the wife's is ringing, I don't even know how to answer it, nor "hang it up" when a call is over; if someone hands me a phone to talk to someone, I have to hand it back and tell them to hang it up when the call is over; one would never believe that I had an IQ of 242.
I took a bunch of pictures with an old flip-phone only to find later that I was supposed to save each one; hopefully, these "smart" phones know enough to save the pictures without any further input from the user.
Still in all, my little cousin won the Blue Ribbon at the fair with a cell-phone shot of a Ferris Wheel competing against all manner of professionals with high-dollar equipment; she just held the phone and pointed and shot with no more thought than if she were taking a selfie; her mother hasn't hushed about it yet.
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Post by hmca on Jul 12, 2023 1:33:37 GMT
For a long time I felt much the same way, BuckSkin. I never used a camera without a viewfinder. I was pretty much lost when I would be out shooting and someone seeing me with a camera thought I would be a good person to ask to take their picture with their phone.
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Post by pontiac1940 on Jul 12, 2023 4:21:30 GMT
The rifleman in me wants a view-finder. Absolutely! I sure get that. Still, I find the cell phone camera very handy. Mine is 5 or 6 years old and I won't get another until this one croaks. |
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Post by kdcintx on Jul 13, 2023 16:12:04 GMT
My smartphone is always with me and fits nicely into my pocket, not so much a full frame camera. I've found that people don't get nearly as nervous or agitated taking pictures in public/crowds with a smartphone as they do with a larger camera. If I plan ahead to take landscape or wildlife photos, I typically use my Nikon camera. The wildlife don't seem to mind.  |
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Post by pontiac1940 on Jul 13, 2023 17:50:07 GMT
My smartphone is always with me and fits nicely into my pocket, not so much a full frame camera. I've found that people don't get nearly as nervous or agitated taking pictures in public/crowds with a smartphone as they do with a larger camera. If I plan ahead to take landscape or wildlife photos, I typically use my Nikon camera. The wildlife don't seem to mind. Good point about people not having concerns about cell phones as everyone is taking pix with them. But point a DSLR at people and they can get antsy. BTW, see my new "cattle drive" post. Nice story. |
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Post by cats4jan on Jul 13, 2023 20:11:58 GMT
If I were to buy a new camera - even a p&s - I would want a viewfinder.Trying to see that screen in the sunlight is truly annoying. If I’m not getting the steadiness of a viewfinder on my camera, I might as well use my iPhone.
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Post by kdcintx on Jul 14, 2023 4:53:27 GMT
If I were to buy a new camera - even a p&s - I would want a viewfinder.Trying to see that screen in the sunlight is truly annoying. If I’m not getting the steadiness of a viewfinder on my camera, I might as well use my iPhone.
I totally agree with wanting a viewfinder on a camera.
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