Problem with image size

[srmoment]

I have recently experienced a frustrating problem which I can't seem to solve.
My images used to come in to Photoshop Elements at 15.36 X 11.52.  For the past few months they are coming in at 17.28X12.96 which is too large to work with.
I have an Olympus mirrorless camera and I import my images through their software (Olympus Viewer) into Photoshop Elements RAW.  I tried contacting Olympus, but their server bounced on me, so I thought I would try this excellent forum

p.s. I can manually resize my images, but it is a pain in the you know what.

Pat

[Major Major]

Pat -

I don't have the answer to your question, but you might try calling them:

1-800-201-7766 (Monday-Friday, 9am-5pm ET)

[Sydney]

Could this be something as simple as perhaps having inadvertently changed the image size in the camera settings? Just a thought.

[Bailey]

Hello Everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster

Hi Pat. I assume your dimensions are document sizes in inches.  The change in document size might be the result of the image's resolution, PPI, having changed somewhere but the pixel dimensions might still be the same.  Perhaps check if the pixel dimensions for the 17.28 x 12.96 images are the same as the those of the 15.36 x 11.52 images.

[srmoment]

I called the Olympus number (thanks Major Major) and they said that when I upgraded my camera from the old EM-1 to the new EM-MII, the RAW size changed.  It increased to provide a better quality image.
Unfortunately, the size of the image also increased, so I guess I'll have to manage that.

I wonder if this is a trend for other camera brands?  Canon, Nikon, Sony?

Thanks everyone for your help.

Pat

[Tpgettys]

Oct 19, 2017 18:43:38 GMT srmoment said:

My images used to come in to Photoshop Elements at 15.36 X 11.52.  For the past few months they are coming in at 17.28X12.96 which is too large to work with.
I have an Olympus mirrorless camera and I import my images through their software (Olympus Viewer) into Photoshop Elements RAW.

Hi Pat,
I am unclear what you mean by "too large to work with"; that would be helpful to know.

From the dimensions you provided your new images have the same aspect ratio as before, namely 4x3, and that is what is important.  Those physical dimensions are computed assuming some number of pixels per inch.  Since your new camera is providing higher resolution images than the old one the reported physical dimensions are greater. 

[Bailey]

Oct 20, 2017 16:15:31 GMT srmoment said:

I called the Olympus number (thanks Major Major) and they said that when I upgraded my camera from the old EM-1 to the new EM-MII, the RAW size changed.  It increased to provide a better quality image.
Unfortunately, the size of the image also increased, so I guess I'll have to manage that.

I wonder if this is a trend for other camera brands?  Canon, Nikon, Sony?

Thanks everyone for your help.

Pat

As you move to higher end cameras, the pixel counts on the sensors will generally tend to increase as well.

If you have too many pixels in your photos, there should be a setting in your camera which allows you downsize your default pixel dimensions for your photos.  By default, cameras are normally set to their highest pixel count (pixel dimensions) straight out of the box

[srmoment]

Thanks Tom and Bailey!
Tom, I like to print what I consider my very best images to 14 X 11 layflat photobooks (through Photobook Canada). My previous size adjusted pretty easily to this photobook size, and I had assumed the 17 X 12" size would need considerable adapting to fit. Maybe I am wrong and it will be easy!!!
Bailey, the impression I had from the girl and Olympus was that the RAW image was a fixed pixel size, but I will see if I can find something in my not very helpful manual.

[BuckSkin]

Oct 21, 2017 4:06:39 GMT srmoment said:

Thanks Tom and Bailey!
Tom, I like to print what I consider my very best images to 14 X 11 layflat photobooks (through Photobook Canada). My previous size adjusted pretty easily to this photobook size, and I had assumed the 17 X 12" size would need considerable adapting to fit. Maybe I am wrong and it will be easy!!!
Bailey, the impression I had from the girl and Olympus was that the RAW image was a fixed pixel size, but I will see if I can find something in my not very helpful manual.

I may not be fully understanding the situation, so forgive me if this does not apply.

Olympus told you correctly, RAW image pixel size IN THE CAMERA cannot be changed; RAW image files will be the largest pixel dimension your camera is capable of.

In most cameras, you can alter the jpeg pixel dimensions; but, for personal use, I cannot see any good reason to not stay with the largest possible = better quality.

You should have no problem adjusting the finished image size to suit your needs; select crop tool and in menu bar type in the dimensions you want and also the PPI (pixels-per-inch) you wish the finished product to be; if you do not wish to crop away any of your image, you can crop to the full image and it will just change the image dimensions without cropping away any of the picture.

Am I making any sense ?

Thanks for reading.

[Bailey]

Hi Buckskin.  Yes you are making perfect sense and yes you are correct in that the RAW image size is fixed.  After srmoment's reply, I checked my camera and yes I can change the pixel dimensions but only if shooting jpegs.  I don't normally shoot jpegs, so I didn't notice that "fine detail" .

Regarding sizing images for printing, I do basically what you describe but with a slight difference. 

1. I select the rectangular marquee tool and set it to the aspect ratio of the paper I am printing to and set feathering to 0.

2. I then do a 100% crop (no resampling/interpolation) by making a selection and then Image->Crop.

3. I then send the cropped image to the printer.

The reason I don't resample my image is because if the resolution (PPI) I choose is not the printer's native resolution, the printer driver will resample the image to the printer's native resolution anyway.  If you have a Canon printer, it will most probably have a native resolution of 300ppi.  If you have an Epson printer, it's native resolution will most probably be 360ppi or 720ppi if you select one of the higher print qualities in the driver.  Personally, I prefer to let my printer driver upsample  the image to 720ppi since in my experience it does an excellent job.  If I try to up sample a 300ppi image to 720ppi (for printing purposes) in PSE using Bicubic Smoother (for enlargements), even using small 5% size increments, I  usually get noticeable image quality degradation.  If I let my printer driver do the upsampling, the prints come out perfect.