Query About Editing Permission

[bokeh]

You must obtain that permission directly - a user who states a preference for wanting constructive criticism of their photos must still expressly give permission to another member to edit their photo.

The above is a quote from Sargenta1's post informing members of forum changes.  I can't reply in the actual thread so I'm posting here.

I'm not sure how this will work or be policed in practice.

I have received an email from a friend on this forum who has told me they are happy for me to edit their photos and give them feedback if they post an image on this forum or any other.

Do members have to actually post permission in the thread or can they do it off-site via email like in this case?

EDIT:

On second thoughts, given the uproar my editing images caused last time I think it'll be better for everyone if I help specific requests, like above, off-site or on another site where permissions is not an issue and just help out general requests when I can if they appear in actual threads

[Deleted]

Jun 3, 2015 6:25:00 GMT bokeh said:

You must obtain that permission directly - a user who states a preference for wanting constructive criticism of their photos must still expressly give permission to another member to edit their photo.

The above is a quote from Sargenta1's post informing members of forum changes.  I can't reply in the actual thread so I'm posting here.

I'm not sure how this will work or be policed in practice.

I have received an email from a friend on this forum who has told me they are happy for me to edit their photos and give them feedback if they post an image on this forum or any other.

Do members have to actually post permission in the thread or can they do it off-site via email like in this case?

EDIT:

On second thoughts, given the uproar my editing images caused last time I think it'll be better for everyone if I help specific requests, like above, off-site or on another site where permissions is not an issue and just help out general requests when I can if they appear in actual threads

Hi bokehmk2,

The intent here is that, unless a member posts a thread with one of their photos and directly asks for feedback or gives permission for edits to their photo as part of their post, editing other member images is not allowed. We are currently working on something within the member profile area where each member can indicate if they are happy to receive constructive criticism, but for editing the rules as stated still apply. 

If a member from this forum privately messages you that it is ok for you to edit their photos, how, as Admins/Moderators/members are we to know about this, unless said member advises the public that this is ok?

Edit: I just saw that Andy has posted that the feature in the members profile area to advise others of your preference of receiving constructive criticism has now been rolled out.

[bokeh]

Hi Simone,

thank you for your reply.

The confusing part for me is

a user who states a preference for wanting constructive criticism of their photos must still expressly give permission to another member to edit their photo.

Unless I am misinterpreting the above, even if a member specifies in their profile setting they are happy for others to edit their photos the member still has  to expressly give permission to another member to edit their photo which implies that for each photo a member posts he/she still must give permission for each individual photo they post. Am I misunderstanding something?

Anyway, it doesn't matter now as I posted earlier.  I don't want to upset any members, so for any specific private requests for help I will direct the person to my or another web site where permission is not an issue and the member will still obviously have the option to ask for help here as well.

I want to avoid the situation where a member has given me permission privately, via email or whatever, and then if I post an edited photo in their thread having other members jumping up and down complaining about me editing another member's photo without permission even though I received the permission privately. 

[Major Major]

Just to clarify, what is now an option to be shown in the member profile area is not whether or not permission is given to edit one photos, but whether or not the member is open to constructive criticism about his/her work.

[Deleted]

The statement you are quoting, and the new feature in the member profile area, only advises if a member is open to constructive criticism, not editing their photo - let's be clear here, those are two very different things.

In order for you to go and edit somebody else's photo you need their express permission to do so. Unless the original poster has stated in their post that they are happy for people to edit their photo you should seek their permission to do so in that thread, prior to making any edits and posting this. In order to avoid members complaining about you having edited another member's photo, it is imperative that said member states in their thread that they give their permission for editing.

What we want to avoid is members taking somebody's photo and editing it as they see fit, without having being asked to do so by the original poster. Remember, not everyone wants their photos critiqued or edited by others and we in order for us to all get along, we have to assume that is the case unless advised otherwise by a member.

Hope this clarifies the matter, if not, let me know.

[Squirrel2014]

I feel this was clearly enough put in the original thread regarding new clarification

Permission to critique a posted image is one issue

To edit another's image is clearly a different and very separate issue, warranting specific permission from the owner of that image.

I can't see what's complicated about that, to be honest

Thanks Storkington and MajorMajor

[bokeh]

Jun 3, 2015 13:01:18 GMT @storkington said:

The statement you are quoting, and the new feature in the member profile area, only advises if a member is open to constructive criticism, not editing their photo - let's be clear here, those are two very different things..............

Thank you for the clarification.  Now it is crystal clear.

My original interpretation of the "...open to constructive criticism....." feature was that the member was giving permission to edit photos in a constructive way if they said yes to the feature.  Hence my query in this thread.

Also, thank you for clarifying that the permission must be posted in the thread which was not made clear in sargenta1's original post.  As posted earlier, I have received permission from a friend/member via email, which technically meets the new requirements as stated in sargenta1's original post, and hence my query in this thread on how such permissions would be policed.

All is good now