spainy53
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Post by spainy53 on Dec 28, 2022 23:44:14 GMT
...not to center of workspace.
I have [X] Zoom with Scroll Wheel selected in Preferences.
PSE 2022 zooms to center of workspace, not to cursor location. This makes it unlike Adobe Acrobat, Google Maps, and most other programs that have a Zoom function. PSE 2018 did the same. I took the PSE 2023 trial for a spin, and it hasn't changed.
Why? Who thinks this is a good idea?
This may seem to be a minor annoyance -- to people with normal eyesight.
Visit my world. Turn on Windows Magnifier (key magnify in the Search box) and set it to 600%. Then try zooming in on an image in PSE.
If you were lucky enough to have the cursor dead center in the workspace, the image zoomed in as one would expect it to. The overwhelming majority of the time, though, the cursor isn't dead center, so zooming in results in the point of interest flying off in a seemingly random direction. Finding it again is a major drain on productivity.
Remember: At 600% magnification, less than 3% of the full screen is visible.
So, for those of us with vision limitations -- or anyone who would like Zoom to work in PSE like it does in Acrobat -- is there some secret [X] Zoom to Cursor setting I have missed?
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Post by fotofrank on Dec 29, 2022 2:49:47 GMT
Yes there is a secret in the way you want to use it - leave it unchecked and use the zoom tool. At this point you can position and click with your mouse to zoom in or out where ever you want in your image.
The fact that you have your cursor hovering over an area doesn't tell the program anything. In the other program you still have to click a point and you can use the scroll on your mouse. In elements you select the zoom tool and keep clicking on that point too zoom into your desired amount.
If this solution does not work feel free to contact Adobe.
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Post by michelb on Dec 29, 2022 7:59:28 GMT
Hi Spainy53n You have already asked in a similar conversation in the Elements Adobe forum:
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I can't understand how you can work in a fixed 600% zoom ratio. Without any magnification for impaired vision, my suggestion is to use the existing tools. - Use the preference option to zoom with cropwheel. - Pay special attention to the two top icons: magnifier AND hand tool. - It's natural to first navigate very quickly to the small area of the picture, no need to be precisely on the center of the shown area. So, use the zoom tool icon for showing that area on the display. You can adjust the zoom ratio with the scroll wheel and the position by keeping the space bar down. Normally, that should require less than two seconds. Then, you also have the option to select the hand icon next to the magnifier. You set your cursor on your chosen pixels and use the scrollwheel to zoom in AROUND the position of the cursor. Again two seconds at most.
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spainy53
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Post by spainy53 on Dec 31, 2022 2:37:30 GMT
Thanks, fotofrank, for your reply.
Maybe in PSE the cursor location "doesn't tell the program anything" but how does that explain why Acrobat -- a program from the same company! -- DOES? Likewise, Google Maps and Chief Architect's Home Designer.
Programs CAN know where the cursor is -- and act accordingly. For some reason, PSE's developers chose NOT to.
As for "you still have to click a point" in other programs, in Acrobat that is NOT the case. I can click in the upper left corner of Page 1, navigate to, say, Page 4, hover the mouse pointer in the lower right corner, and spin the scroll wheel. Acrobat dutifully zooms straight in on that very point -- NOT to the upper left of Page 1, Page 4 or anywhere else.
In short, Zoom in Acrobat enlarges the point of interest -- as PSE should. PSE zoomed to cursor location in bygone days, then changed to center of workspace. Why? Maybe some find the latter preferable, but I most certainly do not. Therefore, this ought to be an option in Preferences. The Zoom "tool" is a crutch.
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Post by spainy53 on Dec 31, 2022 3:28:09 GMT
Thanks, michelb, for your reply.
I must not have made this clear: I'm NOT working at 600% Zoom (View setting) in PSE.
What I am doing is running Windows' accessibility feature Magnifier, set to 600% to be able (barely) to read this text. Magnifier makes EVERYTHING on the Windows desktop (and applications running on it) larger than normal. This means that what I see is 1/6 the width and 1/6 the height of the Windows display space-- therefore 1/36 the area.
That's less than 3% of Windows' on-screen real estate. The other 97% are outside my field of view.
This is why I admire developers who send the mouse cursor to dialogs (and my view with it) rather than opening them at some unnecessary distance from where I'm working. PSE does not earn many points on this score, opening dialogs in odd places and not bothering to send the cursor (or, for that matter, the keyboard focus) to them. I have learned where to pan to see the more common ones, but one shouldn't have to. Such disregard for user productivity in PSE is disappointing.
Unless you've tried working with Magnifier, you might not fully grasp what it's like. Try it sometime.
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Post by michelb on Dec 31, 2022 8:48:26 GMT
Thanks, michelb, for your reply. I must not have made this clear: I'm NOT working at 600% Zoom (View setting) in PSE. What I am doing is running Windows' accessibility feature Magnifier, set to 600% to be able (barely) to read this text. Magnifier makes EVERYTHING on the Windows desktop (and applications running on it) larger than normal. This means that what I see is 1/6 the width and 1/6 the height of the Windows display space-- therefore 1/36 the area. That's less than 3% of Windows' on-screen real estate. The other 97% are outside my field of view. This is why I admire developers who send the mouse cursor to dialogs (and my view with it) rather than opening them at some unnecessary distance from where I'm working. PSE does not earn many points on this score, opening dialogs in odd places and not bothering to send the cursor (or, for that matter, the keyboard focus) to them. I have learned where to pan to see the more common ones, but one shouldn't have to. Such disregard for user productivity in PSE is disappointing. Unless you've tried working with Magnifier, you might not fully grasp what it's like. Try it sometime. First, take the time to read what I did explain. I understand that for you, using the the Magnifier is a must. For me, it's a tool to be used when the normal user interface can't display for your requirements. I am convinced the 'normal' UI in PSE (and I still don't agree that it has been changed) does the job of zooming around the cursor position. And I gave you two ways to do that. Did you try them? Did you even read them? If you absolutely want to use the magnifier, you must have your own reasons and I can't help you. The only thing I'll do will be to work with my son who is visually very impaired with a very narrow field of vision. I'll report my findings here.
About your remark re Acrobat: You can't compare different softwares created independently before being sold afterwards by the same company. Their purpose is different as well as for Illustrator, Indesign etc. The task of the developper of pixel editor is to make zooming and scrolling fast and easy as you are expecting in your image AND to make reading text, menus and icons large enough to be readable for you. That last task does require magnifying for you.
The two normal solutions I explain, from the two icons: magnifyer and hand tool let you select your tiny area without caring about the center and zoom widely and instantly with the scrollwheel - and around the cursor position precisely with the hand tool.
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Post by Chris on Dec 31, 2022 21:14:33 GMT
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